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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 00:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey puppet master!
The temperature in here is surely hot as hell! I say all this raving you got here is Nuts but nevertheless, a good read of 2 &quot;passionate&quot; opinions..raving mad?..hmm...what&#039;s with all the spiked energy spent on trying to &quot;correct&quot; people&#039;s way of Tweeting, Puppet Master? I like some of your inspiring tweets but i think by the emo-shots here that i&#039;ve read so far, it surely ain&#039;t going to help educate but only push people away (unless you secretly want only true followers of your type of marketing flavor, pardon me, but it&#039;s definitely working). 

Anyhow, i may not like your marketing jazz you push (no offense there) but i do find myself attracted by your inspiring quotes (though, too many repetitions are not cool and kinda bland after awhile like well, bland chewing gum).

I may be new in tweeting, but if continuous showing of thoughtful, inspiring &amp; helpful tweets on subject matters that is uplifts someone or maybe even get them directions on getting a job, why not try those approaches? it might be a little slower than your trailblazing passionate ways but sure as heaven knows i won&#039;t be raving mad at anyone or get back some hell like this here. :P 

Regards,

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey puppet master!<br />
The temperature in here is surely hot as hell! I say all this raving you got here is Nuts but nevertheless, a good read of 2 &#8220;passionate&#8221; opinions..raving mad?..hmm&#8230;what&#8217;s with all the spiked energy spent on trying to &#8220;correct&#8221; people&#8217;s way of Tweeting, Puppet Master? I like some of your inspiring tweets but i think by the emo-shots here that i&#8217;ve read so far, it surely ain&#8217;t going to help educate but only push people away (unless you secretly want only true followers of your type of marketing flavor, pardon me, but it&#8217;s definitely working). </p>
<p>Anyhow, i may not like your marketing jazz you push (no offense there) but i do find myself attracted by your inspiring quotes (though, too many repetitions are not cool and kinda bland after awhile like well, bland chewing gum).</p>
<p>I may be new in tweeting, but if continuous showing of thoughtful, inspiring &amp; helpful tweets on subject matters that is uplifts someone or maybe even get them directions on getting a job, why not try those approaches? it might be a little slower than your trailblazing passionate ways but sure as heaven knows i won&#8217;t be raving mad at anyone or get back some hell like this here. <img src='http://salvationsystem.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>@DanevO</p>
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		<title>By: Aliana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aliana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 19:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kenneth 
the thing is, most people who use twitter to market are just straight boring. They&#039;re a self-aggrandizing dime a dozen. I mean, if there&#039;s some way to subtly sell sometimes but to be more &#039;there&#039; for people and yourself, I&#039;m all for that. But most of what looks like &#039;marketing&#039; on twitter is marketers-to marketers, and really only the established marketers use it effectively (but they&#039;re already known to be generally interesting and self actualized people who might have useful nuggets).  

I follow you on twitter, &amp; unlike a lot of new marketers, you have quite a few tweets that are uplifting and giving, and I do appreciate them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kenneth<br />
the thing is, most people who use twitter to market are just straight boring. They&#8217;re a self-aggrandizing dime a dozen. I mean, if there&#8217;s some way to subtly sell sometimes but to be more &#8216;there&#8217; for people and yourself, I&#8217;m all for that. But most of what looks like &#8216;marketing&#8217; on twitter is marketers-to marketers, and really only the established marketers use it effectively (but they&#8217;re already known to be generally interesting and self actualized people who might have useful nuggets).  </p>
<p>I follow you on twitter, &amp; unlike a lot of new marketers, you have quite a few tweets that are uplifting and giving, and I do appreciate them.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Lamb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Lamb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wendy- Kenneth is a master copywriter. While I hate his headlines and the stupid &quot;pupit master thing&quot;, I&#039;ll grant that he is a master &quot;fisherman&quot; online. He understands how to bait with a 140 character hook. We can learn from him, without stooping to his crude arrogance. Sorry Kenneth, but it has been said that a friend speaks truth to our face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wendy- Kenneth is a master copywriter. While I hate his headlines and the stupid &#8220;pupit master thing&#8221;, I&#8217;ll grant that he is a master &#8220;fisherman&#8221; online. He understands how to bait with a 140 character hook. We can learn from him, without stooping to his crude arrogance. Sorry Kenneth, but it has been said that a friend speaks truth to our face.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Brennan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy Brennan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that many marketers are definitely using WRONG WRONG WRONG approaches in Twitter and it&#039;s very unappealing, but this environment is the survival of the fittest, so the in-your-face marketers will get their just desserts.  

If I could play arbitrator (can&#039;t we just all get along?  haha) I&#039;d like to suggest that we don&#039;t have to get angry and judgmental of anybody; let&#039;s just educate.   We should also not judge Puppet Master too harshly because if he has been able to get tons of loyal followers and turn that into a lifestyle income, seems like he&#039;s giving us food for thought.

I know playing both sides of the fence is safe; but like many said in the posts, who says what&#039;s truly right and wrong in Twitter?  

I think we all agree that in your face, push your agenda marketing is definitely wrong.   Continue to do it and you will find yourself warming up the benches on the social scene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that many marketers are definitely using WRONG WRONG WRONG approaches in Twitter and it&#8217;s very unappealing, but this environment is the survival of the fittest, so the in-your-face marketers will get their just desserts.  </p>
<p>If I could play arbitrator (can&#8217;t we just all get along?  haha) I&#8217;d like to suggest that we don&#8217;t have to get angry and judgmental of anybody; let&#8217;s just educate.   We should also not judge Puppet Master too harshly because if he has been able to get tons of loyal followers and turn that into a lifestyle income, seems like he&#8217;s giving us food for thought.</p>
<p>I know playing both sides of the fence is safe; but like many said in the posts, who says what&#8217;s truly right and wrong in Twitter?  </p>
<p>I think we all agree that in your face, push your agenda marketing is definitely wrong.   Continue to do it and you will find yourself warming up the benches on the social scene.</p>
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		<title>By: Marko</title>
		<link>http://salvationsystem.com/blog/278/truth-about-twitter-marketing-no-hype-no-misinformation/comment-page-1/#comment-538</link>
		<dc:creator>Marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Seth Chong

&quot;As for Marko - perhaps what you need to do is make as much as Kenneth from Twitter. 

Uhm... no. 

It&#039;s great if Ken&#039;s way works for him and he&#039;s raking in the dough with his method. More power to him.

It&#039;s also fine and dandy when he wants to share his method with his followers.

Great, but please don&#039;t insult the rest of us who might have other usages and priorities with Twitter.

I don&#039;t need to make money on Twitter (although I have and continue to do so - it&#039;s somewhat unavoidable when you use Twitter my way, the right way ;-) sound familiar? ) and I don&#039;t need forgiveness  from a marketer peddling his money-getting way on a post with &quot;truth about twitter marketing, no hype, no misinformation&quot; in the URL.

&quot;Here’s a man who really walks his talk, and it’s rare that we find marketers like Kenneth nowadays.&quot;

I don&#039;t know Kenneth personally, and my comment is not directed against him, but I just know that I wouldn&#039;t want to use Twitter the same way he does.

Multiple, identical tweets pushing his latest blog post etc... it got really annoying and I unfollowed. So if that&#039;s the result of his method (I suppose he does use his own method, right?), I say, &quot;Thanks, but no thanks.&quot;

But anyone, wanting that, just go ahead. You have my permission. ;-)

&quot;Get as many raving fans as he does. Because until you can, nothing you say will carry any weight.&quot;&quot;

So this means Britney Spears is the real model to follow with 632,754 fans.  How much weight does Kenneth&#039;s or your (gasp) opinion carry compared to twitter genius Britney?


Just something to ponder.

Take care,

Marko</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Seth Chong</p>
<p>&#8220;As for Marko &#8211; perhaps what you need to do is make as much as Kenneth from Twitter. </p>
<p>Uhm&#8230; no. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s great if Ken&#8217;s way works for him and he&#8217;s raking in the dough with his method. More power to him.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also fine and dandy when he wants to share his method with his followers.</p>
<p>Great, but please don&#8217;t insult the rest of us who might have other usages and priorities with Twitter.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t need to make money on Twitter (although I have and continue to do so &#8211; it&#8217;s somewhat unavoidable when you use Twitter my way, the right way <img src='http://salvationsystem.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  sound familiar? ) and I don&#8217;t need forgiveness  from a marketer peddling his money-getting way on a post with &#8220;truth about twitter marketing, no hype, no misinformation&#8221; in the URL.</p>
<p>&#8220;Here’s a man who really walks his talk, and it’s rare that we find marketers like Kenneth nowadays.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know Kenneth personally, and my comment is not directed against him, but I just know that I wouldn&#8217;t want to use Twitter the same way he does.</p>
<p>Multiple, identical tweets pushing his latest blog post etc&#8230; it got really annoying and I unfollowed. So if that&#8217;s the result of his method (I suppose he does use his own method, right?), I say, &#8220;Thanks, but no thanks.&#8221;</p>
<p>But anyone, wanting that, just go ahead. You have my permission. <img src='http://salvationsystem.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8220;Get as many raving fans as he does. Because until you can, nothing you say will carry any weight.&#8221;"</p>
<p>So this means Britney Spears is the real model to follow with 632,754 fans.  How much weight does Kenneth&#8217;s or your (gasp) opinion carry compared to twitter genius Britney?</p>
<p>Just something to ponder.</p>
<p>Take care,</p>
<p>Marko</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Butt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Butt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so right. Maybe Twitter should start to rank people by their following:posts ratio coz that seems to show up the sham &quot;marketers&quot;. Looking forward to the call</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so right. Maybe Twitter should start to rank people by their following:posts ratio coz that seems to show up the sham &#8220;marketers&#8221;. Looking forward to the call</p>
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		<title>By: Monaliza M Amid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monaliza M Amid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I love the debate going on here.

While I personally respect both sides (to each, his own), THIS is just the way that new ideas are sparked off. 

Well for one, those who are on Twitter for purely social purposes may suddenly be &quot;hit&quot; with the idea that there are opportunities abound ($kching! kching!$)..

And those who are on Twitter with a &#039;Pulling PurseString&quot; agenda may get some glimmer of Enlightenment, on the &#039;Right Ways&#039; and &#039;Not Quite Right Ways&#039; to using Twitter to fill up their purses.

Whichever, I truly enjoy this.
http://hypnoticvisualization.blogspot.com/
http://twitter.com/MonalizaAmid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I love the debate going on here.</p>
<p>While I personally respect both sides (to each, his own), THIS is just the way that new ideas are sparked off. </p>
<p>Well for one, those who are on Twitter for purely social purposes may suddenly be &#8220;hit&#8221; with the idea that there are opportunities abound ($kching! kching!$)..</p>
<p>And those who are on Twitter with a &#8216;Pulling PurseString&#8221; agenda may get some glimmer of Enlightenment, on the &#8216;Right Ways&#8217; and &#8216;Not Quite Right Ways&#8217; to using Twitter to fill up their purses.</p>
<p>Whichever, I truly enjoy this.<br />
<a href="http://hypnoticvisualization.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://hypnoticvisualization.blogspot.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://twitter.com/MonalizaAmid" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/MonalizaAmid</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trouble is that neither and both are right. Twitter&#039;s just a communication tool at the end of the day. Like a phone. How to use the phone depends on what your purpose in communicating is. If I want to do a presentation, probably not the best thing to choose. Then there&#039;s audience. If you want to appeal to group thinkers, masses, consumers, blind followers, you&#039;ll need a large follow count to sway them. But if you want to reach a very specific targeted market that doesn&#039;t care about numbers, and is focused on quality, then that&#039;s the best thing to do if you want those results. 

Someone like @zaibatsu needs to have 50k+ followers for his model to work. For my model to work, I prefer 3000 really targeted followers, with about 300 influencers who have a reach of 10 - 50k. In my model, I need to be open to 1- influencers and 2- people who really enjoy interacting with me, clients/customers or not. I can&#039;t manage 50k followers. But if I want to be on tweetmeme or get something on the front page of a social media site, I can do it with the connections I have... the trade off is that I have to be much more accessible to every single one of those people. 

So there&#039;s something to be said for both arguments... and what&#039;s in the middle... as well as neither one. It&#039;s all in how you use it. I can *understand* why you&#039;d be mad about what you&#039;re perceiving, but the story behind is is much deeper than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble is that neither and both are right. Twitter&#8217;s just a communication tool at the end of the day. Like a phone. How to use the phone depends on what your purpose in communicating is. If I want to do a presentation, probably not the best thing to choose. Then there&#8217;s audience. If you want to appeal to group thinkers, masses, consumers, blind followers, you&#8217;ll need a large follow count to sway them. But if you want to reach a very specific targeted market that doesn&#8217;t care about numbers, and is focused on quality, then that&#8217;s the best thing to do if you want those results. </p>
<p>Someone like @zaibatsu needs to have 50k+ followers for his model to work. For my model to work, I prefer 3000 really targeted followers, with about 300 influencers who have a reach of 10 &#8211; 50k. In my model, I need to be open to 1- influencers and 2- people who really enjoy interacting with me, clients/customers or not. I can&#8217;t manage 50k followers. But if I want to be on tweetmeme or get something on the front page of a social media site, I can do it with the connections I have&#8230; the trade off is that I have to be much more accessible to every single one of those people. </p>
<p>So there&#8217;s something to be said for both arguments&#8230; and what&#8217;s in the middle&#8230; as well as neither one. It&#8217;s all in how you use it. I can *understand* why you&#8217;d be mad about what you&#8217;re perceiving, but the story behind is is much deeper than that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jac Star</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jac Star</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, there&#039;s no right and wrong way to use Twitter. It&#039;s entirely up to people to do what they want to do with it, their way, their time.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://dannybrown.me/2009/02/20/the-twitter-rulebook/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Twitter Rulebook&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, there&#8217;s no right and wrong way to use Twitter. It&#8217;s entirely up to people to do what they want to do with it, their way, their time.</p>
<p><a href="http://dannybrown.me/2009/02/20/the-twitter-rulebook/" rel="nofollow">The Twitter Rulebook</a></p>
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		<title>By: Seth Chong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth Chong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man.

Can I say, thanks for the wake up call?

You know what&#039;s strange? Just this afternoon, I stumbled on a website that features the video on &quot;I&#039;m mad as hell, and I&#039;m not going to take this anymore.&quot; This&#039; all strange.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqPgcfP9WN0

I really enjoyed every piece of this blog post.

Thanks again Kenneth for delivering such great content.

As for Marko - perhaps what you need to do is make as much as Kenneth from Twitter. Get as many raving fans as he does. Because until you can, nothing you say will carry any weight.

Here&#039;s a man who really walks his talk, and it&#039;s rare that we find marketers like Kenneth nowadays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man.</p>
<p>Can I say, thanks for the wake up call?</p>
<p>You know what&#8217;s strange? Just this afternoon, I stumbled on a website that features the video on &#8220;I&#8217;m mad as hell, and I&#8217;m not going to take this anymore.&#8221; This&#8217; all strange.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqPgcfP9WN0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqPgcfP9WN0</a></p>
<p>I really enjoyed every piece of this blog post.</p>
<p>Thanks again Kenneth for delivering such great content.</p>
<p>As for Marko &#8211; perhaps what you need to do is make as much as Kenneth from Twitter. Get as many raving fans as he does. Because until you can, nothing you say will carry any weight.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a man who really walks his talk, and it&#8217;s rare that we find marketers like Kenneth nowadays.</p>
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